If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. 1971 510 BRE Race car Two 1969 Datsun 510's 1965 Ford Mustang1994 Ford Mustang, '76 710. prevoius... '78 620, '71 521, '68 510, new '76 B-210 '74 710 sedan. Can someone confirm the correct release bearing collar length? Well the clutch doesnt engage untill it is almost at the top. The 200sx collar is matched to the 200sx clutch which (although the same 200mm diameter) probably has a different diaphragm height than the 510. Check the travel of the push rod. Riding the clutch, driving for long distances with the clutch partially engaged; Dropping the clutch, i.e.- racing starts; Slowing down the vehicle by downshifting and using the engine backpressure to slow the car down. It's wrongly in the 200mm list. 3. Can you adjust travel at the master? I also run the 4 speed clutch fork on my 200sx 5 spped so I need its loose. GOOD LUCK. Much to my surprise the clutch disk looked good. You donât loose any top speed to speek of though. it came with a TOB, plate, disc and a crutch. Display as a link instead, × Everything went in fine and works smoothly except the clutch engages about ¼ inch off of the floor and so I get a lot of gear gnashing & grinding. 126 Posts . It doesn't seem to be slipping. On my 2006, the clutch engages at the very end of the lever travel. LOL). There is just barely enough room to have two fingers on the grip in between the clutch lever. Thanks BTW it is a 95 Geo Prizm 1.6 and new clutch has about 2k on it. My new clutch started to engage about an inch off the floor. Still have questions? It's possible that I have the wrong slave cylinder. × Yeah that 30501-0H600 is for a 240mm clutch from a D21 or Exterra. CONTENTS. We use cookies to give you the best possible experience on our website. My question now: my clutch is like a VW - engages easy and immediately but needs to be fully 'at the grip' to get into Neutral (Ugh). I got a new slave cly. The clutch is I had a loose nut on my clutch pedal assembly so I tightened it and got my pedal to work again (it had 4 inches of freeplay and didn't engage the clutch) I had it welded as well. Clutch only engages at the top Discussion in ' The Hokey Ass Message Board ' started by poboyross , Jun 13, 2009 . The belt is gripped at all times and the clutches inside the clutch engage to get you moving. Either it gets too much gas or not enought. I went and dug out a 510 part from a spare 4pd and it is measuring much closer. Looks like a 240mm clutch collar. About inch and a half to two inch from when pedal is depressed. My first clutch always engaged at idle and the only way I could have fixed it was to put in higher-rate springs. and have bleed my clutch 4 times now and it still engages right off the floor and is hard to shift because the clutch is dragging. You can post now and register later. Get your answers by asking now. This smell is usually created by the friction of a slipping clutch. Edit- it looks like I have this part already. They are really good for heavy hauling and towing or slow technical riding. Yes, this is "normal." I will try to confirm the stroke after I put it together. ? Well the clutch doesnt engage untill it is almost at the top. the clutch still engages about half way down. Table copied from the Internet. Joined: Apr 29, 2009 It should be 1.52" or just under 90mm. I would like to confirm if I have the correct part for a 200sx dogleg trans and a 200mm clutch. it just needs to be adjusted. Even with it depressed all the way to the floor, still clunks into gear. Your clutch pedal should move down 3/4 inch to 1 inch without effort and then require a good deal more effort to travel the rest of the way down to the floor. How is an EFI to Carburetor generally conversion done? #2: Your clutch is actually worn out close to the end of it's maximum service life and will need to be replaced. Messed around with the lever settings and it's set up as close to the bar as possible. First of all I have a 92 with a 3vze. When the dealer reads my key everything is okay but sometimes the inactive light comes on and is shaky why? Discussion Starter ⢠#1 ⢠Aug 20, 2012. Also never ever rev up the engine with clutch attached and drum removed! WHY DIDN'T THE SHOP YOU BROUGHT IT TO ADJUST IT ? 1970 2-door 510, 1977 620 KC, 1973 610 Goon. Amazing! Please rate my answer. This is in my '88 and happened after I pulled out the 331 and put the stock engine back in place. Sometimes, though, I think itâs just luck of the draw with how the installation of the most recent clutch went. i like a quicker engagement, and since i know i have some freeplay, i ⦠as the 5 speeds came and usea different slave cylinder rod which I think is shorter. I didn't adjust it since it was not an adjustable type. Not positive but you have to figure this out. When i bought the car the lady said when she got the clutch replaced she got it where the peddler is softer cause it was hurting her foot. It looks like the 510 had a 3/4" (12/16") but the 200sx had 11/16". Stock flywheel, FMS King Cobra clutch & PP, IIRC stock cable and FMS aluminum quadrant. Do you. Paste as plain text instead, × When i bought the car the lady said when she got the clutch replaced she got it where the peddler is softer cause it was hurting her foot. I think I might have the wrong release bearing collar. I just installed a luk pro gold clutch and r151f trans. No just bought the truck last night, 2000 - Answered by a verified Ford Mechanic. now if 200SX CLUTCH IS USED THE DIAPRAME HEIGHT IS DIFFERENT AND maybe the slave rod is to long/shot. Edit: I went to rockauto and confirmed bore size on slave from 510 to 200sx. Place the collar and bearing against the diaphragm fingers and measure down, from the very back of the collar, to the clutch disc contact surface on the flywheel. The correct collar for the 510 clutch is part # 30501-K0400. The problem was fixed but now it engages the clutch about 1 inch off the ground. Thanks. My other 5spds weren't like this at all. PAIN IN THE NECK! I know I need about 1" of free play in the pedal. What type car uses Sylvania 1157 LL light bulbs. 2. Yes. No. I do have an early 510 fork and adjustable pushrod I can try to put in. Learn how to service and repair a CPR SR clutch by CLICKING HERE . Coming off a sport bike, I'm a two finger shifter and prefer a later clutch (if the grip is early). my set up (old clutch that the previous owner had installed. SPONSORED LINKS. Much to my surprise the clutch disk looked good. How do i fix this?? What's your clutch like? My clutch engages far to 'late' when i let go of the clutch lever. This is what the clutch disc is connected to. Heyo My k4 600 (9500kms) has a bit of a clutch issue. It's also possible you have a defective clutch. Im still deciding if I should just buy a new clutch kit with the matching collar and call it good. the adjuster assembaly is on the top of the pedal. Iknew I should have down it myself. Probably what has happened is the collar from the 200sx was left on the clutch arm on the dogleg and used. then just take it to one of the shops that are telling you theres nothing wrong with it and hire them to adjust it.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,. By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use. 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I remove the transmission today thinking my clutch was worn because the pedal would engage at the top of the pedal travel. The 510 collar is intimately matched to work with the 510's clutch, after all it came with it. I will compare it to a stock 510 part. The clutch engaged at approximately 1/3 ⦠Here's the one for the 510 clutch, top 30501-N1601. Why are most auto shops open Monday through Friday from 8-5? New friction plates will fix the problem. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Just before we kick off, a quick word to just what a clutch actually is. Do I pry this cover off first before using the transmission line removal tool because I can't seem to slide it through as is? I guess I will order a replacement bearing and see. ! In post 6 that's a 510 set up right there this will work for the stock 510 clutch and the Roadster clutch as the diaprame heath is the same. HI, IF THE CLUTCH HAS ONLY ABOUT 2K ON IT,THE PEDAL SHOULD ENGAGE AT ABOUT 2" OR SO FROM THE FLOOR . If it's 1.1" it's fine. What is the mimimum speed I need to travel at to stop my clutch from failing? Upload or insert images from URL. The clutch actually engages way at the top. YOU MAY WANT TO HAVE THE CLUTCH ADJUSTED ELSEWHERE. The clutch in my car is 10mm shorter. Shops says nothing is wrong with clutch. The clutch pedal. Edit: FYI, too = top⦠Either it gets too much gas or not enought. As far as I know, the newer clutches are much better, as I don't have any problems with mine engaging at idle. My 510 has a 200sx dogleg trans with the 200mm clutch. Gas milage has gone way down. Did you adjust the slave cylinder before removing the tranny? As the Clutch wore, the engagement point traveled further and further up until it had no "noticeable" engagement point. After speaking with a couple of people I purchased and installed a new push rod and push rod bushing. Searched to no avail. The issue Iâm having is the clutch engages at the very end of the lever travel. My replacement Spec setup engages a little higher, but it is all the way out sooner. My stock clutch engaged at about 50%. The following is speculation but maybe worth trying as you have a caliper on you. Learn how to install a dry clutch by CLICKING HERE. That is why the clutch seems okay at higher revs. i have a smidge of freeplay dialed in. Why does my 2005 Jeep Grand Cherokee keep needing to be jumped? A friend of mine told me you can adjust the clutch pedal so that it has some dead play in it and that way the clutch doesn't actually engage until further down the push. The S10 200sx collar is part # 30501-K0400. Dimension A looks like it's about 48.7mm (I got it as close as possible to the retainer edge). The duraclutch uses centrifugal clutches to engage the primary clutch. Thanks BTW it is a 95 Geo Prizm 1.6 and new clutch has about 2k on it. I'm not sure if it's the clutch or the cylinder. How does the Dry Centrifugal Clutch work? Hopefully I get time this weekend to work on it again. How are you supposed to go to the shop? UNLESS IT WAS NEVER ADJUSTED PROPERLY AFTER INSTALLATION. have the same problem? 1. Join Yahoo Answers and get 100 points today. In the center of the flywheel is a smaller bearing that centers the shaft so it can rotate as the clutch assembly engages and disengages. Installed a 3250DD and it doesn't grab until the pedal is almost fully out. I bought it used and the clutch has always felt a bit weird to me. I've also seen two different length slave cylinders could yours be the longer one instead of the shorty? When your foot is off the clutch pedal, everything spins together. Your previous content has been restored. This pedal free-play ensures that when you release the pedal, the clutch disk is fully engaged. When you press the pedal in, the assembly disengages. There is no dead play in the pedal at all. Clutch engages at the top can I adjust that so it engages closer to the floor? Thanks. D52E, January 3, 2016 in Drivetrain. The original 510 collar will work. Most people work those hours. In retrospect I could have tried a shorter modified pushrod temporarily to see if would improve. Any help would be greatly appreciated. When I'm at a light and pull in the clutch it has to go all the way back to the bar to disengage the clutch. I still can't find the correct part for my combination of parts. Your link has been automatically embedded. Shop says it start to enagage at about 26%. It's very light and engages way at the top. By Did a clutch job on my 91 4runner SR5, 3.0 4x4 5 speed with a Luk Pro gold clutch kit, turned flywheel etc. × I've had the car a bit and am mostly used to it but was wondering if this is normal? I have a 2001 Goldwing with 114,000 miles. to each his/her own. I have a manual MKV FSI GTI. Dimension L+C is 34.7mm. The current amount of clutch drag is not enough to harness the power of an engine rev. Fine, I can adjust that at the firewall. I bought the car this way several years ago and it's always engaged the clutch up higher in the pedal travel. If itâs accompanied by a rattling sound when the clutch is not in use, which increases in volume when the clutch engages, then you know that you might be looking at replacing your clutch soon. Perhaps it's time for a clutch kit. Right now the clutch engages at the very top. I ⦠When my stock clutch was on its last legs it was near the top of travel on the return where it started to engage. You cannot paste images directly. My 2002 bmw 330xi clutch doesn't engage when it's all the way down. Normally it means the clutch is worn and will need replacement in the near future. Pasted as rich text. I am not sure what the previous owner put in there. Clear editor. Hope this weekend works out. Because of the detent in my clutch pedal, this can make it hard to control the rate at which the clutch engages. Difficulty Changing Gears If you had to divide the clutch space into 1/4's, the clutch would engage in the later 1/4.. my friends would engage in the 3/4's ..or in other words theirs would engage about under an inch as you let go.. but mine engages nearly at the very end !! Synthetics can swell the cork on the friction plates causing the clutch to drag. HOW DOES THE CPR SR CLUTCH WORK? My 510 has a 200sx dogleg trans with the 200mm clutch. Other than the engagement point being all the way up at the top ⦠I think I might have the wrong release bearing collar. I have had a clutch that grabs a 1/4" off the floorboard and a clutch that grabs 1/4" from the top. Instead, I have to release it almost all the way up before giving it gas. 1. Thanks. What causes failure in dry clutch systems? Shop says it start to enagage at about 26%. 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